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  • Crafting vs Trial Farming Rates For Lvl 71-75 Legendary Gears

    With the recent patch release in which legendary level 71-75 drops were introduced, I set to find out the best way of getting these items. In this post, I will share with you guys my trial drop rates, comparing it with the crafting rates based on maxed level (50) of crafting mastery. Continue reading this post to find out more, if you wish.

    1. Crafting vs Trial Runs:
    Advantages of crafting:
    - You get to choose the end product of the craft.
    - You get to choose the stat rolls that you want.

    Disadvantages of crafting:
    - It takes a lot of crafting materials to craft these unique/set legendary items (70 greater essences x 4 for each stat roll for Weapon Set, half the amount for Set Items). You will need to do many trial runs in order to gather enough essences to craft these things.
    - Crafting requires a lot of gold (example, 420k to craft a level 70 legendary weapon set or 210k to craft a level 70 legendary set item).

    Advantages of trial runs:
    - No cost required.
    - There are no limits as to the number of runs you can do.

    Disadvantages of trial runs:
    - Repetitive trial runs are boring and sleepy.
    - You need lots of time and patience.
    - You need LOTS of luck to get specific legendary drops as the chances of them dropping are very low.
    - Drops are highly random; example, you may get a high level item but it may have lousy stats or a low level item with perfect stat rolls, both of which are useless.

    2. Crafting Rates
    I did some calculations on the percentage of crafting legendary items for each level and the rates are as below (this is based on maxed level of crafting mastery which is currently set at 50 as of patch 1.4.13):
    Item Level Crafting Rates
    70 60%
    71 24%
    72 9.60%
    73 3.84%
    74 1.54%
    75 1.02%
    Chances to craft a level 73-75 Eridanus = 6.4%
    Chances to craft a level 75 Eridanus from crafting = 1.024%
    The above are based on the crafting rates in the table.


    Results of my crafts:
    I managed to get:
    - A level 75 weapon set (Eridanus) in my 2nd attempt of crafting it.
    - A level 74 set item from 6 crafts of that item.
    - A level 73 set item from 3 crafts of that item.
    - Several level 72 set items from 1-5 crafts of these items.

    3. Trial Runs:
    To find out how well trial runs fare versus crafting, I did a total of 300 TL100 runs and documented my findings in the table below:
    Trial 100 70 71 72 73 74 75 Set Non Set Weapon Set
    Run 1 23 5 1 1 0 0 12 11 7
    Run 2 26 4 0 0 0 0 13 13 4
    Run 3 24 6 0 0 0 0 9 15 6
    Run 4 26 4 0 0 0 0 10 11 9
    Run 5 24 4 2 0 0 0 9 16 5
    Run 6 26 4 0 0 0 0 13 10 7
    Run 7 21 5 4 0 0 0 6 19 5
    Run 8 23 7 0 0 0 0 11 13 6
    Run 9 25 5 0 0 0 0 10 16 4
    Run 10 24 6 0 0 0 0 12 12 6
    Run 11 25 4 1 0 0 0 13 10 7
    Run 12 27 3 0 0 0 0 10 14 6
    Run 13 23 4 3 0 0 0 9 19 2
    Run 14 25 3 2 0 0 0 12 13 5
    Run 15 26 4 0 0 0 0 9 19 2
    Run 16 26 3 1 0 0 0 6 17 7
    Run 17 26 4 0 0 0 0 12 13 5
    Run 18 26 4 0 0 0 0 11 13 6
    Run 19 27 2 1 0 0 0 7 19 4
    Run 20 21 6 2 1 0 0 5 21 4
    Run 21 25 4 0 1 0 0 7 18 5
    Run 22 23 5 1 0 0 1 9 16 5
    Run 23 19 10 1 0 0 0 10 13 7
    Run 24 27 3 0 0 0 0 12 14 4
    Run 25 25 4 1 0 0 0 9 15 6
    Run 26 23 7 0 0 0 0 6 19 5
    Run 27 23 5 1 0 1 0 8 19 3
    Run 28 26 3 1 0 0 0 12 17 1
    Run 29 23 6 1 0 0 0 7 19 4
    Run 30 21 9 0 0 0 0 14 13 3
    Total 729 143 23 3 1 1 293 457 150
    Percentage (%) 81 15.90 2.60 0.30 0.10 0.10 32.50 50.80 16.70
    Details of my runs:
    - All my runs are trial level 100 runs.
    - Each run as documented in the table above (i.e. Run 1, Run 2) equals to a total of 10 runs each. This equates to 300 runs and 900 Legendary Items in total.
    - Each run took me an average of 60-70s.
    - Total time spent doing these runs: 5.5 hours
    - Each trial run (1 Trial 100 run) gave me approximately 4.34 Greater Essences of each type (based on 100 TL100 runs - data in the table below) - v1.4.13.

    Trial Lesser Essence Greater Total Lesser
    Run 1 3008 678 128 22588
    Run 2 3080 614 144 23620
    Run 3 3040 666 116 21300
    Run 4 2942 650 112 20642
    Run 5 3016 660 116 21216
    Run 6 2956 616 114 20506
    Run 7 2974 634 136 22914
    Run 8 2994 626 132 22454
    Run 9 2966 636 114 20726
    Run 10 3118 634 118 21258
    Total Mats 30094 6414 1230 217224
    - I divided the Legendary Items into 3 groups: Set Items, Non-Set Items and Weapon Set
    - I documented the number/level of these legendaries.
    - Weapon Set = Eridanus, Acamar, Igneus and Glacias Tempestes (Mage sets)
    - Set Items = Everything else excluding Non-Set Items.

    Results of my runs:
    - 97% of the drops were either level 70 or 71 items.
    - Percentage of level 73-75 items during this run was 0.5% (three level 73, two level 74 and two level 75 items out of 900 items obtained during my trial runs).
    - Only one of these 7 items (level 73-75) turned out to be a useful item, which was a level 73 Eridanus.

    4. Calculations (based on the table above):
    - % of level 73-75 legendary drops = a (0.5%)
    - % of level 73 legendary drops = b (0.3%)
    - % of level 74 legendary drops = c (0.1%)
    - % of level 75 legendary drops = d (0.1%)
    - % of weapon/tome set drops = 16.7%
    - % of Eridanus (one of the weapon set) dropping = e (4.2%)

    Note that there are 13 possible stats for all items (excluding Pants/Legs which have Movement speed as an additional stat). There are 6 useful stats which most people aim to get, which are Haste, Power, CR, CD, AR and Vit. Assuming that CD or CR are a must to get for your equipment, with either stat being reserved to roll as your 4th stat, (in this case we use the example of a weapon which has 13 possible stats)
    - % to get the first stat roll as CD or CR = 2/13 (15.4%)
    - % to get the second stat roll of a useful stat = 5/12 (41.7%)
    - % to get the third stat roll of a useful stat = 4/11 (36.4%)
    - % to get all 3 useful stat rolls = 0.154 x 0.417 x 0.364 x 100 = f (2.34%)

    - % to get the first stat roll of any useful stat = 6/13 (46.2%)
    - % to get the second stat roll of the remaining useful stat = 5/12 (41.7%)
    - % to get the third stat roll as either CD or CR = 2/11 (18.2%)
    - % to get all 3 rolls (CD/CR + 2 other useful stats) = 0.462 x 0.417 x 0.182 x 100 = g (3.51%)

    Chance to get all 3 rolls with either CR or CD as one of the stat rolls (if my calculations are right) = 2.34 – 3.51%.

    An example of calculation of the drop rate of an Eridanus from trials:
    Just in case you guys don’t know what an Eridanus is, it is one of the mage weapon set drops.
    - To get a level 73-75 Eridanus with 3 good stat rolls (CD or CR as one of the stats)
    = range between (a x e x f x 100) and (a x e x g x 100)
    = range between (0.5 x 0.042 x 0.0234 x 100) and (0.5 x 0.042 x 0.0351 x 100)
    = 0.049 – 0.074%

    - To get a level 75 Eridanus with 3 good stat rolls (CD or CR as one of the stats) from trial drops
    = range between (d x e x f) and (d x e x g)
    = range between (0.1 x 0.042 x 0.0234 x 100) and (0.1 x 0.042 x 0.0351 x 100)
    = 0.01 – 0.015%

    5. Summary:
    - Crafting trumps farming trial levels in getting specific legendary drops.
    - The chance to get a level 73-75 Eridanus/weapon set drop (with 3 useful stat rolls) is approximately 86-131x (6.4/0.074 to 6.4/0.049) higher.
    - The chance to get a level 75 Eridanus (with the stat of your choice) from crafting is 68-102x (1.024/0.015 to 1.024/0.01) higher.
    - You need to have A LOT of luck in order to get specific legendary drops from trial runs.

    Note: My calculations above may not be entirely accurate, as I am doing these calculations based on what I think is right. If there are any mistakes in this post, do point it out to me and I’ll edit and redo the calculations accordingly.

    If you have done similar trial runs and wish to share your details with us, do post them here. Thanks for reading.

    Updates:
    Version 2 - 20.7.2019: Edited Salvage Rates for Legendary Drops.
    Last edited by Sanctum; 07-20-2019, 01:30 PM.
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  • #2
    Thanks for the data, Sanctum.

    1. It's a good sign that you got a level 75 on your second crafting. Makes me think crafting a level 75 won't be too troublesome.

    2. How bad were the stats on the level 75s you got from the trial runs?

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    • #3
      Thank you so much for this information.

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      • #4
        Oh Sanctum how great thou are. Completely agree on your points. However you have to farm trials to be efficient in salvaging essences to craft stuff. Looting 75 items won't startle me now cause I expect a deflect stat somewhere there. Lol. Extra patience and loud music/movies for that crafted 75. Happy hunting!
        KEFI BIPI VIMI 8073
        Garlic - TL100 Looter/Salvager/Crafter
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          Originally posted by Reymon View Post
          Thanks for the data, Sanctum.

          1. It's a good sign that you got a level 75 on your second crafting. Makes me think crafting a level 75 won't be too troublesome.

          2. How bad were the stats on the level 75s you got from the trial runs?
          No problem Reymon Haha, I was just very lucky. It was a surprise when it happened. Hopefully you will be able to craft something good as well.

          The above was one of the level 75 items which I found. The other one I probably salvaged it previously. Lol.

          Originally posted by Vicarius Feli Dei View Post
          Thank you so much for this information.
          Vicarius Feli Dei You're welcome! Hope you find this post useful.

          Originally posted by Garlic View Post
          Oh Sanctum how great thou are. Completely agree on your points. However you have to farm trials to be efficient in salvaging essences to craft stuff. Looting 75 items won't startle me now cause I expect a deflect stat somewhere there. Lol. Extra patience and loud music/movies for that crafted 75. Happy hunting!
          Yeah Garlic, you are right. Need to do lots of trial runs to get enough crafting materials to make these legendaries. Just hope that maybe during your trial farming that you can chance upon a useful high level legendary item. You too! Good luck farming and crafting
          Last edited by Sanctum; 07-18-2019, 01:37 PM.
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          • #6
            This was the most useful item that dropped. TL 80 so faith restored in RNG. Lol.

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              Originally posted by Garlic View Post
              This was the most useful item that dropped. TL 80 so faith restored in RNG. Lol.

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              Oh My God. This item is beautiful! I need one of these too. Congrats man!
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                Originally posted by Sanctum View Post

                Oh My God. This item is beautiful! I need one of these too. Congrats man!
                Color me jealous. Nice to know that for mortals like this inept player, I can get something at TL80, tho. Thanks, Garlic ! My results of 14 runs on TL80. 7 pieces I think over 70 and lots of set pieces. No 75 crown and nothing too useful.
                Last edited by TerryDarc; 07-18-2019, 03:25 PM.
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                • #9
                  This is a great post!
                  Thank you and all but respect for your work and sharing it with us.

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                    Originally posted by TerryDarc View Post
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                    Color me jealous. Nice to know that for mortals like this inept player, I can get something at TL80, tho. Thanks, Garlic ! My results of 14 runs on TL80. 7 pieces I think over 70 and lots of set pieces. No 75 crown and nothing too useful.
                    That's an unremarkable run, but nevertheless a run. 150+ GE and more E and LE. You still win man. Lol.
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                    • #11
                      Without counting i had about the same results in my first ~300x TL100 runs. Got 1x lvl75, 2xlvl74 and ~10x lvl73

                      Glad i got more lucky with my 75 result

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                      • #12
                        Sanctum Thanks very much for that data, very well compiled.

                        I agree with your conclusion - crafting is the way to go for high level items. But that is going to take a lot of farming. On the way there, T100 might still be a decent place to farm for L71 and L72. Anything found can save a craft or three. So far I've found a L71 helm and pants that have reasonable stats on them, though no xp so I'm saving them for push time.

                        I can build essence faster if I farm T80. I guess the drops aren't as good but because I can do it faster the essence per minute of play is better for me - about twice as good.

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                          Originally posted by Tempest1503 View Post
                          Without counting i had about the same results in my first ~300x TL100 runs. Got 1x lvl75, 2xlvl74 and ~10x lvl73

                          Glad i got more lucky with my 75 result

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                          Ooh gold. If only I was that rich! Congrats! Carry on with the data. Lol.
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                          • #14
                            TerryDarc Better luck in your subsequent trial farming sessions!

                            Mikael Oddmund No problem man. Hope it helps

                            Tempest1503 Wow, ~10x lvl 73 drops? That's a lot more than what I got. Nice!

                            RedJiminy No problem man. Yup, if it takes a lot shorter to clear TL80 for you, then stick to it until you are stronger/able to clear TL100 faster. TL80 isn't too bad since there will still be 3 legendary drops which on salvage, will give you equal amount of Essences. You can then spend them to craft higher level legendaries and use them to push higher trials.

                            Garlic Yeah, Tempest is a rich guy. I'm so much poorer than him after my recent crafting runs. Lol.
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                            • #15
                              Sanctum -

                              Well done! Thanks for putting this together and sharing! I've been very lucky with crafting post v1.4.11 (first piece was a lvl 74 Integralas, decent stat rolls, + socket!), but know the luck won't last & can't afford to do much more w/o a lot more farming.

                              Sorry to go off-topic immediately, but with so many top mages here, including yourself, I was wondering if anyone can steer me to some newbish guides/videos on 'mob-pulling', especially on mobile. I can run T100, but my times are slow, and I get clobbered by mobs if I try to corral more than a couple groups at once. ELR/GMC @ ~CL1120 (can provide more deets, but already hijacking too much). Thanks!

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