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    So what's the minimum amount of Gems that need to be spent before Damage-increasing stats start rolling up during Reforging? Because there seems to be very little about it that's random. Perhaps the R in RNG stands for "Rigged"...? :-\
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    I also managed to waste 400 Gems trying to get Movement Speed to roll up on a pair of boots. 2 Trials later, lo and behold, the same pair of boots drop, only with MS on them. Something similar happened with a pistol as well, only I got stonewalled on the Reforge for the new one (3 attempts, XP rolled once and Dodge rolled twice). Tricksy tricksy devs... :-\
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    • #3
      Unless its a near perfect pice, why re-roll? You know you will find better gear soon.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tessla View Post
        Unless its a near perfect pice, why re-roll? You know you will find better gear soon.
        I wish I could say that, but my BH gets poo drop rates for some reason. He's only at CL ~800, 290K Damage and TL76, but it's still damn near impossible to find pieces that actually increase his Damage without Reforging. The best pistol I've found in ages is a Leg that decreases D by only 0.3%. It's usually a decrease of 4% or greater even on Legs, and that's more than I can afford to give up.

        I wanted my next ANB to be a Mage, but it's looking like I'll have to go BH because my current BH is just so stunted in terms of progress. My mage will still get the Cel(s) afterwards, but I evidently need those LCIs to move my BH forward.
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        • #5
          Tessla is spot on. And once you get to T100, you'll get far better drops. Those are much better to reforge anyway, since you'll roll near perfect stats on the reforge. Movespeed more often drops on T100 pants/boots anyway, I've noticed.

          Also, reforging is entirely random. The stats that show up are completely and totally random. It's pure random number generation (besides no MS on non-pants/boots).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rytrik View Post
            Tessla is spot on. And once you get to T100, you'll get far better drops. Those are much better to reforge anyway, since you'll roll near perfect stats on the reforge. Movespeed more often drops on T100 pants/boots anyway, I've noticed.

            Also, reforging is entirely random. The stats that show up are completely and totally random. It's pure random number generation (besides no MS on non-pants/boots).
            It certainly doesn't seem that way. Someone else even mentioned in another thread that picking a rolled stat will decrease the odds of that stat re-rolling on the next roll. That implies a bit of a rig.

            The MS boots that dropped were set item (don't remember which one right now, but they were the same set as the boots I was already using) and dropped at TL76. But TL100 is irrelevant to me right now since, as I said before, my BH's drops have been and currently still are poo. There's no way in hell I'm getting to TL100 on mobile with the gear I'm getting now.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rytrik View Post
              once you get to T100, you'll get far better drops
              What game do you play?????
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Melchiah View Post

                It certainly doesn't seem that way. Someone else even mentioned in another thread that picking a rolled stat will decrease the odds of that stat re-rolling on the next roll. That implies a bit of a rig.
                How reforging works: It will give you 3 stats - 1 being the stat you're reforging (in case you want to keep it, if the other 2 stats you roll are trash), and 2 'random' stats. The 2 random stats can be any stat that the piece can hold, including a better version of the same stat that you're reforging.

                So if you pick a new stat from the roll and reroll again, there IS still an odd that it will reroll a +better of that same stat, but a lesser chance. So if you say that's a rig, it'd be a rig coded in your favor, so you don't keep getting the same stat as a +better stat repeatedly.

                If you're reforging, there's a high probability that you don't want the stat that you're reforging. The game knows this. But perhaps there is a chance that you do want a better version of the reforge stat. So it will occasionally throw in a +better version.
                Last edited by Rytrik; 04-28-2018, 05:20 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CountBelzebul
                  Reading the above posting..im afraid of reforging anythin..except non legendary and non epic items
                  Reforging is generally a waste of gems.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rytrik View Post

                    How reforging works: It will give you 3 stats - 1 being the stat you're reforging (in case you want to keep it, if the other 2 stats you roll are trash), and 2 'random' stats. The 2 random stats can be any stat that the piece can hold, including a better version of the same stat that you're reforging.

                    So if you pick a new stat from the roll and reroll again, there IS still an odd that it will reroll a +better of that same stat, but a lesser chance. So if you say that's a rig, it'd be a rig coded in your favor, so you don't keep getting the same stat as a +better stat repeatedly.

                    If you're reforging, there's a high probability that you don't want the stat that you're reforging. The game knows this. But perhaps there is a chance that you do want a better version of the reforge stat. So it will occasionally throw in a +better version.
                    I get all that. That's why I laughed when the same XP buff popped up twice. And honestly, whenever there's that kind of a casino element, the odds will always favor the house. That's freemium modeling 101.

                    And yeah, Purp, it is a waste, which is why it reeks of cheese that it's essentially a necessity for my BH as things currently stand (and slowly becoming a necessity for my Mage as well). But then again, this is a game that will insta-kill you with 2 basic skeleton archers when your Armor is at 60% and your T is at 245K (but only when your Trial timer is in the green, of course), so I don't put anything past the limberger factory that it calls a RNG. :-\
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                    • #11
                      I've been reforging stuff for the longest time and wasted a good sum of gems already. I'm done so far. It's not a good way to have it rely solely on RNG. Atleast, for the first part it is.
                      • It should work, first, 1-3 rerolls depends on RNG.
                      • 4-6 has better chances of getting a higher value of the stat being rerolled together with other useful stats.
                      • 7-10 has a 100% chance to get better values for 4 valuable stats.
                      This one's far worth to push people to spend gems on it. Otherwise, people will just wait for events and acquire custom boxes. I don't think that's really good for the game because people can get tons of gems preparation before each event starts which means they don't really have to buy gems (less income for the game).

                      Devs really have to push for meaningful mechanics and add-ons for people to use gems and have a reason for buying it continuously like my above suggestion. Also, why not allow re-forging of named items, if you're not happy with Gold spend, then put Gem spend.
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