Is it a complete waste to rush to broken dragon in legendary and stop there to farm resources and books? I don’t have extra money to spend and I can’t even do the 100 gems a day for 30 days from my iPhone. I was reading a guide and it said something about finishing legendary story for a craftable legendary but that doesn’t seem to be true.
I wasted time clearing legendary fully in bronze (luckily made top 250 still) in silver I just went to legendary broken dragon for the aforementioned reasons. I would rather lvl through trials once I’m 10 and I know I can farm normal TBD for gemstones but the books won’t be as good. I’ve been skipping making XP jewelry or gear except what drops so I prob need to start doing that. In silver it took me way too long to hit 70 I did it in less play time in bronze I think dunno how that happened maybe I had more gems for boosters then. I know I could rank higher if I played defender but I love whirlwind juggernaut right now.
Also so I noticed you said you don’t have to clear a milestone trial lvl if you pass a trial higher than the milestone requirement but I can confirm I had to go back and clear the specific trial lvl to get the milestone reward / credit. I guess I’m just looking for tips I’m worried about the gold time restraints. I wish I could go with a mage or BH so I can have the cheap unlocks but I’m more focused on making sure I get my 2 celestials and hopefully more medals (no experience with mage or BH at all)
Sorry is this is inappropriate to ask this here.
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No probs, and yes, I used the 3 free ones that you get from Act 1.Originally posted by Mr.Salino View Post
(I shortened the quote a bit, hope that's okay).
My question here: didn't you pay for any companions? If so, did you use all three that are given in Act 1?
While having multiple Archers, or other companions, would help given you a boost, I'm not really aiming high enough to need them. And since I'll be deleting the event hero afterwards, the extra cost isn't worth it.
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(I shortened the quote a bit, hope that's okay).Originally posted by Nhat View PostANB Leagues #1 (Feb 2019) Players' Posts:
Gems cost for Event Hero, total 1,545
Sample Gems usages, from my Silver #1 run- Unlocks: 1,545
- Boosters:
- Jewelries: 3 Uncommons = Total: 156
- Abilities: Total: 43 each ability, Warrior have 21 => 903
- This may have been a bit much, going to level 4 probably would have been enough, and reduced the total to 378, which was what I did in Gold #1, and will be doing for ANB League #2.
My question here: didn't you pay for any companions? If so, did you use all three that are given in Act 1?
Please do allow some newbie questions here:Originally posted by Coda View PostI will try to contribute to the part of Nhat's guide, for how to level up efficiently. In ANB, you are battling against time. In-map time is the -limited resource. In order to end up high on the LB, you have to level up as far as possible in CLs in the time allotted, and towards the end, have very high level gear & jewelry and attacks/utilities/passives. You also need skill to play well, the hand you're dealt by RNG. All other resources besides time are, in theory, more or less unlimited:
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That's why the top of the LBs of these events are P2W.
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So, the key to doing "ok" in these events, is how to do all this "efficiently" while spending a "modest" amount of gems.
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- RNG?
- P2W?
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Continuing...
The next concept that is critical to understand, is how do you 'level up' the fastest? Well, that is the build/map/level/style at which you earn XP the fastest.
Thus it is important to recall:- XP maxes at Trial 100. Playing this trial as fast as possible yields the most efficient XP
- XP/time is usually greater for the mobs than the boss. However, I haven't re-run the calculations since the balancing patch. Maybe things are different now. Anyways, in ANB you probably do need the loot from the boss -- gears, gemstones, gold, and research books. So, it's a trade-off but in ANB you're probably going to be killing Kara except at the very end when you make your push.
- The more time during the ANB you spend running Trial 100, the higher your XP = CL will be, and then the higher you'll be able to push at the end.
- Pushing higher than 100 (except at the end), is a waste of the limited time you are allotted. You are merely earning XP more slowly by doing that.
Obviously, during the whole event (except at the end), you should run the highest %-XP build you possibly can, and run the max XP booster the whole time.
So, the goals for ANB's are, generally:- run the highest % XP build + booster you can at all times
- get up to level 70 as fast as possible, then
- get up to trial 100 as fast as possible, then
- run Trial 100 as long as possible, then
- at the end, switch everything to a DPS build and push to your max trial
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I will try to contribute to the part of Nhat's guide, for how to level up efficiently. In ANB, you are battling against time. In-map time is the -limited resource. In order to end up high on the LB, you have to level up as far as possible in CLs in the time allotted, and towards the end, have very high level gear & jewelry and attacks/utilities/passives. You also need skill to play well, the hand you're dealt by RNG. All other resources besides time are, in theory, more or less unlimited:
You can buy unlimited amounts of:- gems (with money)
- gold (with gems)
- gemstones (with gems)
- crafting resources (with gems)
- XP & currency boosters (with gems)
- the equivalent of research books = level up attacks/utilities/passives (with gems)
- you only get 6 Epic ephemeral pieces of gear which are of limited use vs. Legendary ; plus a toon uses 9 pieces of gear+weapons, not 6
- Legendary gear/weapons can only be crafted (crafted gear is mediocre) or it can be farmed (so RNG is a factor)
- however XP gear can be reforged to DPS/push gear -- with significant gems
- you only get 2 Celestials
- you only get 3 ephemeral pieces of jewelry (2 rings, 1 necklace)
- you only get 3 P-Rare jewelry boxes
- to reach the highest levels you have to craft one set of either XP jewelry or DPS/push jewelry or a combination ; this takes a huge amount of gold (or gems) & gemstones
- you can buy a limited number of research books ; however these are equivalent to gems
- immediately buy & run XP and currency boosters for the entire event
- immediately buy 2 Endars, or, don't even bother rescuing Robin from TBD and buy 3 Endars (500 gems each)
- immediately unlock all attacks, utilities and passives (unlock the third utility and passive when you can)
- as soon as a new attack/utility/passive unlocks, pay gems to immediately level it up (if you do this, you only need one research slot)
- if you're not going to pay to level everything to L10 with gems, then pay to unlock all the research slots
- purchase gear from the blacksmith often on your way up to level 70 (you'll have to buy gold with gems)
- craft gear on your way up to level 70 (you'll have to buy resources with gems)
- craft XP jewelry every 10-20 levels, on your way to level 70. At least pure Epic XP jewelry, if not full legendary (using gems + possibly gemstones)
- as soon as you reach level 70, craft legendary gear + weapons (replace/skip the Epic ephemerals)
- if you're slightly patient, use the ephemeral jewelry once you get it, for your XP set ; then later, craft a full replacement DPS set
- I'm sure I am missing some things you would do if you had an unlimited budget.
So, the key to doing "ok" in these events, is how to do all this "efficiently" while spending a "modest" amount of gems.
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I've always "Gems upgraded" abilities to at least level 4 (18 Gems each, relatively small price to pay) as soon as they unlock and what ever I am currently upgrading just finished - never leave an empty upgrade slot, unless you're asleep...Originally posted by NoSuchReality View PostI was wondering if you're using a slow hero like a Mage, if it's more efficient to not use a XP booster until CoW. You can buff your fireball to level five, short path the boss on the levels and get to CoW where the movement speed is a non-issue. Since you're lower levels, the mobs are lower level and your fireball is more OP moving you through the long levels faster. You then get to the dense starting mobs on CoW and play catch up.
This helps boost Synergy level, giving you Vitality boost - AR and AS are nice too, but not really noticeable at lower levels.
If you've going to rush through the stages, then saving the boosters until CoW would be best, since you're just going to be wasting them while you're running through the other levels...
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I was wondering if you're using a slow hero like a Mage, if it's more efficient to not use a XP booster until CoW. You can buff your fireball to level five, short path the boss on the levels and get to CoW where the movement speed is a non-issue. Since you're lower levels, the mobs are lower level and your fireball is more OP moving you through the long levels faster. You then get to the dense starting mobs on CoW and play catch up.
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BH (in ANB Silver 1 or Gold 1, cant rememberOriginally posted by Nhat View Post
Bronze #2 took me roughly 1 hour to get to CoW, so it's almost 2 hours in total to get to level 70 - ran Warrior and did full clear of other levels, which obviously takes longer than the "rush" suggested. My best was around 1 hour 30 minutes total, again Warrior - I'll do rush in Silver and see how much I can improve on it...
I think Martin (on Discord) took 45 minutes in total with CoW, and there were posts there of people taking only 20-30 minutes or so - not sure what class those were...
) took roughly 65 minutes from L1 to L70 with CoW farming. Can be better with more efficient farming. Other classes take a bit more time due to low MS.
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Bronze #2 took me roughly 1 hour to get to CoW, so it's almost 2 hours in total to get to level 70 - ran Warrior and did full clear of other levels, which obviously takes longer than the "rush" suggested. My best was around 1 hour 30 minutes total, again Warrior - I'll do rush in Silver and see how much I can improve on it...Originally posted by Bob Pond View Post45 minutes at CoW plus time to get there? How long did it take to get there so how long in total?
I think Martin (on Discord) took 45 minutes in total with CoW, and there were posts there of people taking only 20-30 minutes or so - not sure what class those were...
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45 minutes at CoW plus time to get there? How long did it take to get there so how long in total?Originally posted by Nhat View Post
Not sure if it's really faster or not, I favour simple gameplay over efficiency, so CoW worked best for me, less thinking involved, haha.
For Bronze#2: Each run averaged around 30 seconds, with average 3 runs per level, so that's about 1.5 minutes per level, from 40 something to 70 => that's about 45 minutes. I've seen posts of people taking a lot less time, so don't know.
If you're lucky and get a lot of Elites, or craft more XP gear, then obviously things will go faster...
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Ok, I think I've got most of them - there wasn't much more in the "Players Helping Players" section, nor the Archived topics. As always, feel free to add things or asks here, and I'll update things in the main FAQ.
Links to the various announcements, finalised leaderboards and other "what I did" posts have been added too.
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In my recent run, I did the CoW route. I didn't stop at the first three mobs though, I pushed across the bridge and took the four additional small mobs and chest on that side too. It didn't add much time, but seem to drop a number more books of learning and gear pick-ups. I felt (didn't take data) like the gear drops and books allowed me to keep my gear/abilities on pace with my leveling. It also provided enough gold to craft rare XP jewelry picking haste/power to buff through the attacks faster.Originally posted by Nhat View Post
Not sure if it's really faster or not, I favour simple gameplay over efficiency, so CoW worked best for me, less thinking involved, haha.
For Bronze#2: Each run averaged around 30 seconds, with average 3 runs per level, so that's about 1.5 minutes per level, from 40 something to 70 => that's about 45 minutes. I've seen posts of people taking a lot less time, so don't know.
If you're lucky and get a lot of Elites, or craft more XP gear, then obviously things will go faster...
Excellent summary in the FAQ as always.
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A very helpful thread. Many thanks, Nhat.
Quick note: gemstones in your celestial items aren‘t lost but sent to you as well when you end the event.
I‘ve read somewhere about unsocketting them and therefore left one inside intentionally.
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Not sure if it's really faster or not, I favour simple gameplay over efficiency, so CoW worked best for me, less thinking involved, haha.Originally posted by Ozymandius View PostI have not tried the "farm Canyon of Whispers" before. I usually stop playing Story Mode at Broken Dragon. Is that a faster way to farm XP?
For Bronze#2: Each run averaged around 30 seconds, with average 3 runs per level, so that's about 1.5 minutes per level, from 40 something to 70 => that's about 45 minutes. I've seen posts of people taking a lot less time, so don't know.
If you're lucky and get a lot of Elites, or craft more XP gear, then obviously things will go faster...
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