...So it begins

[Montresor]

Tolimar - i highly recommend going over to the discord and checking out the channel for your preferred class. understanding the optimal gear sets and how to use them is a giant part of success in the game. Unfortunately i don't know anything about BH, but there are people there that do.

[Tolimar]

I started Eternium way back in 2017 on an inexpensive Android Fire tablet. My first character was a Mage. I knew nothing about the game or the forums. I quit because I kept dying in the Wailing Peaks. My first reaction to Eternium at the time was probably very similar to your reaction to DI. I came back to Eternium in April 2021, determined to learn the game. At first, I tried salvaging my Mage with advice from the forums. But I think I made too many mistakes with him and ended up deleting him as a lost cause. My next character was a BH, Stalker Build. I thought I was following the Build properly, but another disappointment. All his gear is CTd, except jewelry, yet he seems to have plateaued at Trial 128. Entering Trial 129 is Instant Death. Pressing “Start” = Death ?! Every Single Time! So I went to the BH Leaderboard and looked at the Top Player who had cleared Trial 197. I wrote down every detail. I brought a new BH over from an ANB. I crafted his gear based on the information I had written down. I went to the forums and found out this was the Havoc/Demo BH Build. I followed the advice of the Veteran Players and the many excellent guides in the forums. This new BH has finished Trial 137, still needing 5 CTd items. He was equipped with two more from the last ANB, but I have not taken him back to the Trials yet. My Havoc/Demo BH from the last Gold ANB reached #2 on the BH Leaderboard for a brief, shining moment. Like you said, my heart pumps and I can’t sleep when playing an ANB. I usually finish in the first few days. This last ANB was my best ever. But I cannot bear the mind-numbing repetition of starting a Warrior from scratch. I went to the forums and looked up Warrior Builds but they all seemed way too complicated for me. I went to the Pythia website but had no clue how to use it. If I had some direction, maybe I could start a Warrior during the next Bronze ANB. You seem to know what you are talking about with Warrior Builds. Any advice?

[davidz]

DI is much better than DH5, and its genuine online gaming is probably the best… I don’t know. For ANB, I have warriors all the time. 6 Furry warrior farms at TL 105 a lot, and then use the meta 4W2F to push. I craft with Pythia which is amazing. I’ve seen some masters farm with 6F and then push with BH.

[Tolimar]

Eternium is the first mobile RPG that I have played. I saw that you had mentioned DH4 and went to the App Store to look for it but, sadly, it has been replaced by DH5, which I avoided again because of your comments. Did I see that you posted that you finished Trial 137 in this last Gold ANB!? What class, how are you doing that!? I barely finished 127 with my BH, and it was my best ANB ever. Admittedly, I know I am a really crappy player. I usually buy most of the Event Packs because I need all the help I can get. I don’t know how anyone does it with no in app purchases and the limited gem budget they say they use. Skill, of which I have little, does count for a lot in Eternium.

[davidz]

I’ve been playing mobile games a lot not the PC game. If you ever played the mobile games such as Gameloft’s Dungeon Hunter 4 (DH4) and DH5, it will much easier for me to express my feeling clearly: I love DH4 and hate DH5. The DI game is better than DH5, but it is a lot more like DH5, and that’s why I don’t like it. Eternium is like DH4 which has been killed by Gameloft. Similarly, I love Eternity Warrior 2 (EW2), but EW3 gets much worse, and I hate EW4 which is also more like the DI game. They just do not give me any thrill… My heart pump and I can’t sleep when I play DH4, EW2 or ANB! I just get angry and my hatred and disgust just increases when I play DH5, EW4 or DI… Yes, DH5 and EW4 has much fancier graphics but they just have no fun and they are just trolling the players.

[Tolimar]

You have the right to say anything you wish. I just don’t think you are giving DI a fair chance. The game spells out every step, every quest you must complete, it even gives you footprints on the ground to follow! I think you are right, the Pay-to-Win wall will probably kick in when many players won’t want to quit. As far as being too old, I can almost guarantee that I am far older than you. I have played my share of RPGs since Wizardry from 1990 to Eternium today and all the big ones in between: EverQuest for 16 years, Everquest II, Diablo I and II, Dragon Warrior, and WoW. Yes, they all have many things that are similar, including that Pay-to-Win smell. You can’t deny that Blizzard does produce a slick and polished game. Just to be fair, Dragon Warrior was on Nintendo and had nothing extra to buy once you bought the game. Some were subscription based and most had expansion packs for purchase. But none of them were the voracious money pits that these “in app purchases” create, including Eternium and Diablo Immortal. I don’t mind paying to play, but I have spent far more than $200 on Eternium and seen precious little development.

[davidz]

Tolimar yes, I’m a bit too harsh. I don’t have the right to say if it’s good or not since I have not played enough. Maybe I’m too old, and I just don’t like all these kind of game… it’s very similar to many other games. I don’t like their way of farming, and the gear system- smells strongly like pay-to-win. The story line is a mess, you don’t know where to start, where you should go… I just feel it’s bad right now, and I feel I will know it is really bad and how it is bad if I play it longer. In Eternium, I can make a 77 and that’s it, it’s the best. In this DI game, I probably will never be able to craft a good gear and never get the best gear after spending 200 dollars.

[Tolimar]

A little harsh, don’t you think? I’ll take a boring and ugly story over a story that has stagnated into nothing but mind-numbing repetition. Just turn up the Difficulty Level dial and Trial 5 becomes Trial 125. Don’t get me wrong, I like Eternium, I have invested a lot of time and real $$ in it. I just don’t see much of a return on the investment. Same 5 Bosses, same Daily Quests, same tiresome waste of gold and materials trying to craft outside of ANB events, same insanity-inducing farming, nothing for a Main to do but wait for new CTd gear and Push through a few more Trials. Looking forward to the next ANB, WS doesn’t provide anything that a well-developed Main doesn’t already have, just a Pay-to-Play option. With deep-enough pockets, one can play entirely by purchasing Gems. Sigh… I do appreciate and understand your comments, and in no way mean to be unkind. “We are fools to make war on our Brothers In Arms” (Dire Straits). Peace.

[Tolimar]

Nothing. I made it to Level 13 Demon Hunter today and have not spent one cent…yet. Lots of opportunities to spend but I have ignored them so far. The main in-game currency (Orbs, I think) mirrors the Gems strategy of Eternium, up to the $99.99 price point. Lots of free upgrades, bonuses, and rewards so far. The “Pay-to-Play” wall may come later, when Blizzard thinks most players will be so entrenched and time-invested that they won’t want to quit.

[Ozymandius]

Tolimar How much did it cost to set up the new Diablo?

[davidz]

Don’t like the game! It’s a shitty mass… good graphics but boring and ugly story… Eternium is a million times better. Just deleted the efing game.

[davidz]

It’s indeed more fun than WS, but it’s far less than ANB…

[Tolimar]

Already a Level 8 Demon Hunter! Seems to be a very cool game, nice interface, gorgeous graphics… but, I won’t be leaving Eternium for it. But it will do until we get some new content. Eternium will be Daily Quests and ANB, nothing much for a Main to do but wait for CTd equipment, crafting outside of ANB is way too wasteful of gold and materials. No use to spend hours, days farming only to throw it away on one or two crafts that end up right in the salvage bins.

[davidz]

Whenever I say I like a game, there will be people say: oh, that is just a copy of Diablo… what the heck? I guess I’m going to try it out. It’s very likely more fun than WS… not the ANB though I think.

[Arawn]

Finally available for download four years after being announced by Blizzard. Let's just take a peek