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    Sorry I didnt show the detailed damage on each one, or my stats page was in bit of a hurry. But it's a full Assault set (so obviously if you dont have one your scatter shots would be significantly lower.
    But shows some example of why the leader board has the first set up the most.
    Just quick rounded numbers are:

    Scatter Shot/Piercing ammo/Power Infusion/Charged Shot : 33M
    Scatter Shot/ Piercing Ammo/ Power Infusion/ Celerity: 11M
    Lethal Shot/Piercing Ammo/Poison/Power Infusion: 11M

    (since all gear is the same and i'm just standing letting the main attack do it's thing dont need to have much else other than the average damage displayed at bottom of screen. In a few seconds you can tell the 11M isn't going to jump up to the same 33M values. )

    Dont think it made the video but tried out the explosive shot question that came up. Didn't see any secondary explosions so i'm going to say piercing doesn't cause them

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    #2
    Originally posted by Coda
    Nice job!
    Have you tried these?
    • Scatter Shot/Piercing Ammo/ Power Infusion/ Poison
    ~
    • Scatter Shot/Piercing Ammo/ Poison/ Charged Shot
    I mostly had done it for the people over in another post.
    I was at work and things were bit busy. It was easy to just let it run and repeat back the displayed averages real quick.....
    I might go ahead and do the full version. I could swap through several set ups, move in some of my stalker pieces so i'm not getting assault bonuses on scatter
    (i figure just repeating two of them i do WITH the full scatter should be enough to give an idea so basic set up SS and lethal and you would be able to see the assault sets impact)

    To make it most fair i need something i can use effectively to calculate the time i am performing the attacks. I would like an on screen clock, i could use hot keys to set it to start on left mouse click so the MOMENT i click to attack it starts...i'll look for a program that does this then do a full version, post the videos remember to display detailed damage screen etc.

    Probably want to try single enemy vs group also....
    any other thoughts? I'll compile a list before i start so that i make sure i get them all
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      #3
      Makes sense. Scatter shot + charged is about as good an AOE effect as there is for BH. Extra projectile for Assault + Piercing Armor + Charged shots hits multiple targets more often.

      I would assume Scatter + piercing + poison will do alot more than 11M but less than charged shots.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Coda
        Nice job!
        Have you tried these?
        • Scatter Shot/Piercing Ammo/ Power Infusion/ Poison
        ~
        • Scatter Shot/Piercing Ammo/ Poison/ Charged Shot
        I'm only curious about Scatter,Charged,Poison but I doubt that will do good given poison is never really synergize with scatter due to it's 70% per shrapnel damage.

        You gotta include the Rapid fire (scatter procs) since that's what makes it really strong with power infusion and piercing shots. Although if you do, then you'll definitely see why it's the best set. Stalker won't even compare to how much it deals even with those snipe procs.

        Originally posted by Bounty View Post
        Makes sense. Scatter shot + charged is about as good an AOE effect as there is for BH. Extra projectile for Assault + Piercing Armor + Charged shots hits multiple targets more often.

        I would assume Scatter + piercing + poison will do alot more than 11M but less than charged shots.
        I doubt. Poison deals the base damage of your main attack and scatter is just at 70% per shrapnel.
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          #5
          So all other things being equal, Charged Ammo > Celerity.
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            #6
            Did more detailed things in training grounds. I did my best to run for exactly 10 seconds...
            First test were with no complete set (i have the bonus attack from stalker)
            Looking at this and thinking it through, i'll try save other set drops, probably run some lower Trials and try to get sets with bad enough stats i reset my offesnive CL and actually have power, CR, CD, Attack speed all the same and run them through same thing. If i unequip weapons and jewelry I should reduce the numbers a lot but have them more uniform and comparable.
            No Set gear
            Power Infusion, Charged Shot, Piercing
            Average Damage 17,684,492
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            Charged 165 606880 100135288
            Scatter 65 802309 52149968
            Piercing 213 115144 24525748
            unknown 1 16 16
            Average Damage 19,208,652
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            explosive 72 2,480,785 178,616,576
            Charged 27 685,078 18,497,112
            piercing 26 5,433,968 14,143,190
            unknown 1 16 16
            Average Damage 13,387,780
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            lethal Shot 64 1,171,547 74,979,016
            piercing Shots 31 1,660,333 51,470,336
            Charged 18 644,878 11,607,820
            xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Assault 6
            Power Infusion, Charged Shot, Piercing
            Average Damage 9,244,336
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            Lethal 60 1,006,246 60,374,772
            Piercing 14 11,378,931 19,305,042
            charged 23 710,148 16,333,425
            Average Damage 11,801,428
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            Lethal 60 1,245,436 74,726,208
            Piercing 25 1,341,795 3,354,876
            charged 21 623,569 13,094,959
            Average Damage 27,285,792
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            charged 279 655,874 182,989,072
            scatter 60 1,328,299 79,697,944
            piercing 324 115,609 37,456,736
            Poison, piercing, charged
            Average Damage 23,737,358
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            Charged 241 538,611 129,805,304
            scatter 62 1,256,011 77,872,720
            piercing 280 95,392 26,709,918
            posioned 117 28068 3284040
            Average Damage 12,987,508
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            Lethal 60 1,212,844 72,770,648
            piercing 25 1,001,434 25,035,858
            posion 59 395,681 23,398,316
            charged 18 604034 10872616
            Celerity, piercing, charged
            Average Damage 22,487,818
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            forgot to display detailed stats for scatter Sorry. When I redo these with every set i'll get this all fixed up
            Average Damage 12,361,750
            ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
            Lethal 63 1,157,818 72,942,560
            piercing 36 1,102,688 39,696,800
            charged 27 610,652 16,487,628
            I have no idea what "unknown is"
            Do need to fill out a stalker set with comparable stats i can balance with CL to have a snipe proc in there.
            I would also like to see the results of a Havoc set.

            In a final test when I have gear i can do that with i will do single enemy and group enemy to see how it works out...

            oh...and apparently if you dont have a full set...use explosive shot....never would have guess actually
            Last edited by Cultusfit; 05-25-2018, 03:27 PM.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Cultusfit View Post
              Did more detailed things in training grounds. I did my best to run for exactly 10 seconds...
              First test were with no complete set (i have the bonus attack from stalker)
              Looking at this and thinking it through, i'll try save other set drops, probably run some lower Trials and try to get sets with bad enough stats i reset my offesnive CL and actually have power, CR, CD, Attack speed all the same and run them through same thing. If i unequip weapons and jewelry I should reduce the numbers a lot but have them more uniform and comparable.
              No Set gear
              Power Infusion, Charged Shot, Piercing
              Average Damage 17,684,492
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              Charged 165 606880 100135288
              Scatter 65 802309 52149968
              Piercing 213 115144 24525748
              unknown 1 16 16
              Average Damage 19,208,652
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              explosive 72 2,480,785 178,616,576
              Charged 27 685,078 18,497,112
              piercing 26 5,433,968 14,143,190
              unknown 1 16 16
              Average Damage 13,387,780
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              lethal Shot 64 1,171,547 74,979,016
              piercing Shots 31 1,660,333 51,470,336
              Charged 18 644,878 11,607,820
              xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Assault 6
              Power Infusion, Charged Shot, Piercing
              Average Damage 9,244,336
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              Lethal 60 1,006,246 60,374,772
              Piercing 14 11,378,931 19,305,042
              charged 23 710,148 16,333,425
              Average Damage 11,801,428
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              Lethal 60 1,245,436 74,726,208
              Piercing 25 1,341,795 3,354,876
              charged 21 623,569 13,094,959
              Average Damage 27,285,792
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              charged 279 655,874 182,989,072
              scatter 60 1,328,299 79,697,944
              piercing 324 115,609 37,456,736
              Poison, piercing, charged
              Average Damage 23,737,358
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              Charged 241 538,611 129,805,304
              scatter 62 1,256,011 77,872,720
              piercing 280 95,392 26,709,918
              posioned 117 28068 3284040
              Average Damage 12,987,508
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              Lethal 60 1,212,844 72,770,648
              piercing 25 1,001,434 25,035,858
              posion 59 395,681 23,398,316
              charged 18 604034 10872616
              Celerity, piercing, charged
              Average Damage 22,487,818
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              forgot to display detailed stats for scatter Sorry. When I redo these with every set i'll get this all fixed up
              Average Damage 12,361,750
              ability Times cast Damage/cast Total Damage
              Lethal 63 1,157,818 72,942,560
              piercing 36 1,102,688 39,696,800
              charged 27 610,652 16,487,628
              I have no idea what "unknown is"
              Do need to fill out a stalker set with comparable stats i can balance with CL to have a snipe proc in there.
              I would also like to see the results of a Havoc set.

              In a final test when I have gear i can do that with i will do single enemy and group enemy to see how it works out...

              oh...and apparently if you dont have a full set...use explosive shot....never would have guess actually
              Wow! I guess Explosive shot is really E X P L O S I V E ! LMAO. But maybe the procs of explosion can re-proc when it PIERCES on another target. That's multi-purpose explosion and piercing.

              Wait.. Piercing, then Explosion.. This really sounds NASTY! LOL
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                #8
                Originally posted by Nikko.mendoza89 View Post

                Wow! I guess Explosive shot is really E X P L O S I V E ! LMAO. But maybe the procs of explosion can re-proc when it PIERCES on another target. That's multi-purpose explosion and piercing.

                Wait.. Piercing, then Explosion.. This really sounds NASTY! LOL
                watched for it and it didnt see it.
                i really figured that it WOULD and had always assumed so. But dont see the secondary explosions ever on the mob that is now directly in front of me

                Also bit confused by explosive firing more other two. It always felt like a SLOWER attack....
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cultusfit View Post

                  watched for it and it didnt see it.
                  i really figured that it WOULD and had always assumed so. But dont see the secondary explosions ever on the mob that is now directly in front of me

                  Also bit confused by explosive firing more other two. It always felt like a SLOWER attack....
                  Can someone confirm this though? There's no way explosive shots deal that much damage if not.

                  Can someone confirm with the Devs if explosive shot pierced shots that bounce off can still proc their explosive proc damages? So practically multiple explosions that can damage mobs when they're right next to each other? If not, then that can be the buff for Havoc set. LMAO. All shots that have pierced still does 100% their effectiveness including procs when they bounce around multiple targets.
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                    #10
                    I emailed the team for official clarification. If you don't hear from me here within the next week, bump the thread, please.

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                      #11
                      Bump =)

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                        #12
                        I've emailed them and bumped it. Still waiting for a reply.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Suzy.Bae View Post

                          Can someone confirm this though? There's no way explosive shots deal that much damage if not.
                          Watch the summoner at bottom of screen first few seconds in.. I'd say that's fairly definitive.. Continue watching for more, not so obvious points in which it procs off of piercing.
                           
                          Last edited by Skyla; 06-15-2018, 06:24 AM.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ྿༻Travis༺྿ (Support Mgr.) View Post
                            I've emailed them and bumped it. Still waiting for a reply.
                            What I hear from this are the devs going: "oh crap does it? do we want it to? why didnt we think of that? What do we tell them? *gets distracted watching cat videos/drinking mojitos*

                            Originally posted by Skyla View Post

                            Watch the summoner at bottom of screen first few seconds in.. I'd say that's fairly definitive.. Continue watching for more, not so obvious points in which it procs off of piercing.
                            yep it procs on piercing. Good catch...So funny I tried to do this with training grounds and couldnt get a single one to proc.

                            ​​​​​​​maybe it has a reduced chance or something
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cultusfit View Post

                              What I hear from this are the devs going: "oh crap does it? do we want it to? why didnt we think of that? What do we tell them? *gets distracted watching cat videos/drinking mojitos*



                              yep it procs on piercing. Good catch...So funny I tried to do this with training grounds and couldnt get a single one to proc.

                              maybe it has a reduced chance or something
                              Lol. You're probably right.

                              I put on a couple Stalker pieces to up my piercing chance is why I had better luck with it I think, and the larger map\more mobs made it easier to spot.
                              Glad to help
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