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Originally posted by BAgate View PostGrauGeist, give it up. I've been down this road before. The people here just love their sword and shield wielding mages.
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GrauGeist, give it up. I've been down this road before. The people here just love their sword and shield wielding mages.
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I've played my Mages at high enough trials, before switching to BH. I have THREE of them at 70. When pretty much every Mage is running Necronomicon, I fail to see how taking Shields from Mages is any sort of significant nerf, particularly as it'd be trivial to create new class-specific Named equipment.
And to be clear, my crusade is actually to differentiate the classes better, something that the devs have done a bad job of. It's poor design to have the Mage and Warrior share so much gear, when the classes should be radically different in obvious ways. Taking Shields from Mages helps accomplish that. So would pulling Maces and Axes. And why shouldn't Maces and Axes be Warrior-specific? It'd be much better differentiation if Warriors were the only class to get Maces and Axes, while only Mages got Tomes and Staves and only BH got Guns and ???.
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Originally posted by GrauGeist View PostAnd I can bring up the granddaddy of RPGs specifically denying casters heavy armor, much less shields - D&D.
Regardless, it's bad balance for Mages to have access to every Warrior weapon *plus* Staves, while the BH only has Guns.
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And I can bring up the granddaddy of RPGs specifically denying casters heavy armor, much less shields - D&D.
Regardless, it's bad balance for Mages to have access to every Warrior weapon *plus* Staves, while the BH only has Guns.
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Originally posted by GrauGeist View PostNo, I've not played Diablo since the first version. Just because Diablo did it badly is not a good reason to have such grossly-unbalanced equipment access.
And let's not forget, this is just my suggestion to the devs
-Final Fantasy series.
-Tales of series.
-Baldur's Gate
-Pilars of Eternity
-Tyranny
- Path of exile
And I could keep going for a while.
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No, I've not played Diablo since the first version. Just because Diablo did it badly is not a good reason to have such grossly-unbalanced equipment access.
And let's not forget, this is just my suggestion to the devs
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Originally posted by GrauGeist View PostMages have way too many gear options. Mages should only have swords and staves. Never shields, nor Maces.
Tomes are definitely a weapon with a Damage stat, unlike a Shield with a Block stat.
In the RPGs I've played, I've never seen a Mage with a shield. They're supposed to have their hands free, and unencumbered by heavy armor. Casting in armor is a rare and special ability.
If Tome and Staff are only for Mages, then Guns can be only for BH; Warrior should be the only one to use a Mace.
Better differentiation of gear would be a good thing, and taking things from the Mage would be a great start.
As for the BH, it's ridiculous that there is only ONE Named item. Giving them Shields would increase their access to cool stuff, but I'd be OK with simply making more Named Guns instead.
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Mages have way too many gear options. Mages should only have swords and staves. Never shields, nor Maces.
Tomes are definitely a weapon with a Damage stat, unlike a Shield with a Block stat.
In the RPGs I've played, I've never seen a Mage with a shield. They're supposed to have their hands free, and unencumbered by heavy armor. Casting in armor is a rare and special ability.
If Tome and Staff are only for Mages, then Guns can be only for BH; Warrior should be the only one to use a Mace.
Better differentiation of gear would be a good thing, and taking things from the Mage would be a great start.
As for the BH, it's ridiculous that there is only ONE Named item. Giving them Shields would increase their access to cool stuff, but I'd be OK with simply making more Named Guns instead.
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Originally posted by Mohawk View PostWhat is OH? Thinking about it all the time... can't get it...
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Originally posted by GrauGeist View Post
Unlike the Mage?? Please distinguish why the Mage should have Shields, and the BH not.
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Why not? ^^
I mean, i don't think it would be useful or i would use it... but if anyone wants, why not?
No one would be forced to use, maybe the Encrypted Shield would be useful for someone... i don't know
What is OH? Thinking about it all the time... can't get it...
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Originally posted by GrauGeist View Post
Unlike the Mage?? Please distinguish why the Mage should have Shields, and the BH not.
BH gets all the guns.
If BHs get shields, then I think mages should be able to OH a gun. Same with warrior.
By the way, you never answered me... WHY do you want a shield on a BH? What's the point?Last edited by Rytrik; 03-16-2018, 01:54 AM.
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